Credit Card Pin Number Scam
Guest: Ira
SENIOR MEMBER (Member for 2 yrs.+)
Post subject: Credit Card Scam!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:38 pm
This article speaks for itself. NEVER give out any credit card info to someone who initiates the call.
http://boards.fool.com/message.asp?mid=23744104
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Guest: maddybeagle
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:43 pm
you have to pay to get on the fool boards. could you summarize what the topic was.
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Guest: beyond platinum
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:51 am
Thanks for the info Ira. I suspect that there are a lot of cardholders out there that do not know about the three digit number on the back.
Take care of your credit cards.
WARNING...New Credit Card Scam. This one is pretty slick since the crooks provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want.
Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.
Here's a story passed along the www: by a concerned citizen:
One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "MasterCard".
The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460 Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"
You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security.
You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"
Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers". There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers' that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him.
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do," and hangs up.
You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card.
Long story made short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.
What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.
Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By informing each other, we protect each other.
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Guest: Ira
SENIOR MEMBER (Member for 2 yrs.+)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:43 am
Maddy,
Not true! Most of the stuff on Motley Fool is free. Yes, there are subscription services, but I don't pay anything. In any event, BP posted the entire article so the point is moot.
_________________
Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
Ira
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Guest: maddybeagle
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:31 am
the fool message boards are not free to everyone. A few years ago, they started charging some folks and giving free access to others. The result was a bunch of free message boards popping up on the internet. They must be giving you free access since you give out good info .
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SENIOR MEMBER (Member for 2 yrs.+)
Post subject: Credit Card Scam!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:38 pm
This article speaks for itself. NEVER give out any credit card info to someone who initiates the call.
http://boards.fool.com/message.asp?mid=23744104
_________________
Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
Ira
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Guest: maddybeagle
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:43 pm
you have to pay to get on the fool boards. could you summarize what the topic was.
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Guest: beyond platinum
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:51 am
Thanks for the info Ira. I suspect that there are a lot of cardholders out there that do not know about the three digit number on the back.
Take care of your credit cards.
WARNING...New Credit Card Scam. This one is pretty slick since the crooks provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want.
Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.
Here's a story passed along the www: by a concerned citizen:
One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "MasterCard".
The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460 Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?" When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"
You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security.
You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"
Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers". There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers' that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him.
After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do," and hangs up.
You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card.
Long story made short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.
What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.
Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By informing each other, we protect each other.
_________________
"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible." --Einstein
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Guest: Ira
SENIOR MEMBER (Member for 2 yrs.+)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:43 am
Maddy,
Not true! Most of the stuff on Motley Fool is free. Yes, there are subscription services, but I don't pay anything. In any event, BP posted the entire article so the point is moot.
_________________
Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
Ira
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Guest: maddybeagle
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:31 am
the fool message boards are not free to everyone. A few years ago, they started charging some folks and giving free access to others. The result was a bunch of free message boards popping up on the internet. They must be giving you free access since you give out good info .
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