Unbiased Credit Card Reviews
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:30 am
I've really been looking for is a card that offers 2% cash back on ALL purchases. I finally found a card. The Sam' Club Discover Card.
SAM'S CLUB ADVANTAGE PLUS MEMBERS
Upto $1,500 0.25%
$1,500.01 - $3,000 0.50%
$3,000.01 - $5,000 1.00%
$5,000.01 - $10,000 1.75%
Over $10,000 - 1M 2.00%
You need to purchase a Plus membership ($100 a year) to qualify for these rates. Non-plus members get 1/2 the return. This is by far and away the highest cash back card I've seen for people that charge up to 1 million a year.
Has anyone seen ANY card that offers cash back in the range of this discover card?
Here are the cards I am currently using and a short review:
BANK OF AMERICA US Airways
MBNA Cashback 1% Cash back
AMEX Green Card
BANK ONE Rewards (1%)
FLEET Savings Bond (1% when issued, 2-3% when matured savings bonds)
Living outside of Philadelphia makes the US Airways card a very valuable card. Philadelphia is US Airways' hub city and there are countless options available for flights. Very rarely am I unable to get what I need. Most flights are only 20,000 miles.
MBNA Cashback - Its ok, your standard 1% cashback issued as a statement credit when you call them. No known cap.
Amex Green - Another 1% card with most purchases and a higher percentage (not known) for supermarket, gas and pharmacy purchases.
Bank One Rewards - 1% cash back, no known cap.
Fleet Savings Bond - 1 Point per dollar spent. You will receive a $50 savings bond (worth $25 now) for every 2500 points. Limited to 20 bonds a year.
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Guest: Alexis Rios
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:49 am
i like Sams Club Discover Advantage Plus card , but require a lot of expenses to see a cash back.
Guest: Board Monitor
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:21 am
Greetings and welcome to the board tater686! Great post. I think you could only do better with some of the other cash back cards that offer 5% on grocery, drugstore and gas purchases. This, of course, assumes that you have a lot of grocery, drugstore and gas purchases.
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Guest: Polonius
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:21 am
The card has a couple of built-in "gotchas." It's not bad, but it isn't as good as it appears at first glance...unless you're a Sam's Club member anyway.
What is your actual cash rebate? Suppose you spend $10,000 per year. Do you get 2% back (i.e., $200)? Nope.
Quote:
If a Purchase causes Year-to-Date Purchases to span multiple rebate tiers, the applicable rebate percentage for each spanned tier will apply to that portion of the Purchase falling within such tier. For example ,if a Cardholder who is a SAM'S CLUB Advantage member already has Year-to-Date Purchases totaling $2,000,makes an additional $2,000 Purchase, $1,000 of that additional purchase would be eligible for a 0.50% rebate and the remaining $1,000 would be eligible for a 1.00% rebate.
So it's like a tax bracket--you only get the full 2% on the purchases you make AFTER your annual buying is over $10,000. Then you have to spend that $100 per year for membership.
And what do you get back? You don't get cash. You get a rebate check.
Quote:
Rebate checks may be cashed only at the SAM'S CLUB. Cardholders who are not members of SAM'S CLUB may cash their rebate checks by obtaining a one-day pass at SAM'S CLUB.
Source:
https://www.onlinecreditcenter2.com/consumer/samsdual/layout/CashBackDisclosure.jsp
Not a problem if you shop at Sam's Club, but it would be a problem for me, since there isn't a Sam's Club for hundreds of miles from me.
And it's a Discover card. Not as many places accept Discover as AmEx, Visa, or MasterCard. I do the majority of my credit card dollar volume at Costco each year; it only takes its own cards and AmEx now.
I use the Costco TrueEarnings American Express card. As with the Sam's Club card, you need a Costco membership of some sort. I pay $100 for executive membership. That gives me a 2% rebate on all purchases (maximum $500 per year) at Costco itself. (Rebate has to be cashed in at Costco, but you can get cash on request.) To that I add the AmExp card: True cash back- 3% for eating out, 2% for traveling, 1% everywhere else, including at Costco. So I get 3% off everything at Costco, and the 3% eating out and 2% traveling are good too. The remaining 1% on all purchases doesn't sound as good as some other offers, but there are other advantages to the card--balance transfers with no fees, fairly low interest rates with the ability to carry a balance if you so choose, and so forth. Since Discover, Visa, and MasterCard aren't accepted at Costco, it's a nobrainer for me to get this one, since I shop at Costco a lot.
Guest: Alexis Rios
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:36 pm
I think that i'll try to call to GEMB customer service to try to combine Walmart Discover with Samclub Discover an keep the Walmart Discover card. I've tried to combine the Sams Discover with the regular Sams account , but is not possible.
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Guest: tater686
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:42 pm
Got back from Sam's Club a little while ago and got approved for the card. Limit is only $10,000 as of now so I'm gonna have to pay the card off a couple times a month for a while. The tiers dont bother me so much. I will definitely put at least $750,000 a year on the card and will probably put the required $10,000 on it in the first week to begin earning 2%. This is a business card, although they do offer a personal card.
Obviously for every day purchases this is not the best cash reward card, but I will be using this card for B2B purchases (I own a ticket agency) and the large majority of brokers I buy from accept Discover. The local Sam's Club is a mere bike ride away so its not much of a problem getting to a store to cash a rebate check.
I am pretty psyched. 2% back on up to a million a year in purchases. I've looked long and hard and this just seems to good to be true. Heck, as a merchant I only pay Discover about 1.8% for processing their credit cards and I know brick and mortar merchants probably pay about 1%. Doesnt make much sense to me from the business standpoint of Discover.
Guest: Board Monitor
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:16 am
tater686-
Interesting! Let us know how things turn out.
Polonius-
Guess I'm confused. How exactly do you get 3% off everything at Costco? Please explain in further detail.
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Guest: Polonius
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:53 pm
Curtis, the Executive Membership ($100 per year) gives 2% off everything at Costco; I pay for everything there using the Costco AmEx TrueEarnings card, which gives an additional 1% on purchases anywhere, including Costco. 2%+1%=3% was all that I was saying.
There's apparently no maximum to the AmEx rebate; the Costco rebate is limited to $500 per year. I have a friend who makes large purchases at Costco every year, so he just pays for additional memberships--he switches membership cards when he goes over $25000 in purchases (that's when the Costco 2% rebate maxes out).
I actually make a bit more than that using other methods which I've mentioned here. For instance, I never use the Costco AmEx card when I purchase online--I'll use a different cashback Discover, Visa, or MasterCard. I still get that 2% from Costco and roughly 1% (cash or rewards) from the other card. But if I ever have to return anything to Costco, the local stores can't handle a refund to anything except AmExp, so they give me the refund in cash/check--and I keep the 1% rebate on the card I used...
tater686, that does indeed sound like a great deal for your circumstances! Nice find! I read through the fine print and the only possible problems I see are that the terms can change at any time. Also, since you're planning to spend about 80,000 a month on a 10,000 limit card, you might find that there's a delay between the time you pay and the time your credit limit is again available for use. That's happened to me a few times. I was told once that I could not charge more than my credit limit every month even if I paid it off in full. The Customer Service Representative who told me that was wrong...but make sure you check your availability online. You sound like a careful person who would do that anyway, but I thought I would just mention it for other readers...
Guest: Board Monitor
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:46 am
Great tips! Thanks for the follow-up Polonius.
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