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Saturday, June 04, 2005

Student Loans Compared to Credit Card Debt

Post subject: Student Loans Compared to Credit Card Debt
Guest: Jordan
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:48 pm

I have around $9000 in college debt that is currently on a credit card at 0% APR for a few more months. Since I am a student I can get an unsubsidized Stafford loan at around 2.77% variable for a few years (I will pay off the debt before I graduate), or I can balance transfer to another card at 3.9% fixed with a fee of $50 or 75 (cant remember). My debt ratio is still low with this debt, as I have high limits on all my cards.

So I am wondering which type of loan will look better on my credit score when paid off? Since the Stafford loan is backed by the government, I am not sure if it is considered a secure loan or not, so I really dont know what is the best way to go. It is also a lower interest rate, but variable (changes annual), so I dont know how high it will be in the future. I also can always pay alot more than the minimum each month, so required payments arent a factor.

Does anyone know how stafford loans affect your credit score, and how it would compare to just keeping the debt on credit cards? With a Stafford loan you can also get around 5000 or 5500 a year in additional loans up to 23k, with a low interest rate even after graduation.



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Guest: Polonius
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Post subject: Student Loans or Credit Card Debt
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:07 am

Depending on the Stafford loan, the repayment period is 10 to 30 years and starts after graduation, with a special low guaranteed rate. It's a no-brainer--grab the Stafford loan. You have no assurance whatever that you'll continue to be able to get low-cost balance transfers or low-interest cards, and the cards will have to be repaid at a much faster rate anyway.

I realize your question was about credit scores. Stafford loans don't help for credit scoring, since until you graduate they don't have to be repaid. Without a payment history, they won't contribute to your scores at all I think. But that's unimportant. What's important is getting the education and not committing yourself to traditional interest rates and credit card terms, regardless of the affect on your scores. You're obviously in good financial shape now, but circumstances can change swiftly in the real world. Illness, marriage/divorce, children, unemployment can wreck the best of plans. Preserve the flexibility and long-term repayment possibility...and the low interest rates...of the Stafford!

Guest: Tigerdad101
Post subject: Student Loans or Credit Card Debt
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:42 am

You really should grab a consolidation loan right now!

Rates on consoliation loans with be more than doubling at the end of June. Right now you can consolidate your loans (no credit check required) and get a rate of less than 2 percent. Since you are apparently still in school, you can turn around and have the repayment of the loan deferred until after graduation.

http://www.loanconsolidation.ed.gov/

http://www.loanconsolidation.ed.gov/hfaq.shtml

http://loanconsolidation.ed.gov/rate.shtml

The Stafford education loans are not considered "secured" and neither a Stafford nor a direct consolidation loan (from the above links) will do anything to hurt your credit or lower your credit score as long as you don't go into default. Lock in these once in a lifetime rates right now.

(Also see the Student loan consolidation forum at CreditBoards.com.)

Hard Inquiries When Applying for Credit Cards

Post subject: Hard Inquiries When Applying for Credit Cards
Guest: Lyndzer Torte
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:52 pm

I have a decent credit score of about 770, however, I've had quite a few hard inquiries lately (credit cards, loans, etc). How badly do these inquiries affect me getting approved for a decent card? More specifically: a Citi Diamond Preferred card?



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Guest: Polonius
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Post subject: Hard Inquiries When Applying for Credit Cards
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:00 pm

With a credit score of 770, obviously the inquiries are unimportant. The influence of the inquiries is reflected in your score. 770 is a great score.

Of course, there are many different scoring models. You have to know/guess/approximate the score that your lender will use to evaluate your credit. If 770 is an Experian CreditPLUS score, forget about it. I have a PLUS score of 774; my regular FICO scores are 710-720 right now.

Guest: Alexis Rios
Post subject: Hard Inquiries When Applying for Credit Cards
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:17 pm

In my case Equifax & Experian don't suffer too much in my credit score , but Transunion is like pain in my *****. Transunion registered a drop of 25 points.



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Guest: Daniel
Post subject: Hard Inquiries When Applying for Credit Cards
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:02 am

Hard inquires are the cost of doing business.

As long as they are not excessive the short term effects dissipate within 6-12 months.

Building credit is the coin of the realm ... think long term.

Personal Credit Cards Compared to Business Credit Cards

Post subject: Personal Credit Cards Compared to Business Credit Cards
Guest: Jordan
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:38 pm

I was wonderign what everyone thinks about business cards vs. personal cards. I primarily use my cards for personal use but occassionaly do business on my cards. So is there an advantage or disadvantage to getting a business card primarily for personal use?

My reasoning is that I already have 3 cards (2 personal and 1 business), so by getting a 4th card as a business card it might look better on my credit report. Also the business card has slightly (minimally) better rewards than the equivalent personal card. I keep multiple cards for the rewards benefits of each card, but know that having too many cards does not look good.

Guest: Board Monitor
Post subject: Personal Credit Cards vs. Business Credit Cards
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:49 am

Jordan,

Greetings and welcome to the board! I can't see an advantage unless a business card offered better rewards. AmEx has some great business reward cards that you might consider. You may find the following article helpful:

http://www.cardratings.com/businesscreditcards.html

Good luck & let us know how things turn out!
Best Regards,
Curtis Arnold
Board Monitor
http://www.cardratings.com
(501) 663-0314

Guest: Jordan
Post subject: Personal Credit Cards vs. Business Credit Cards
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:35 pm

Thats exactly what I was looking at. Changing my personal Blue AMEX into a Business Platinum Credit Card. The cards are basically identical, except the Business Platinum provides the OPEN discounts at selected retailers.

On my personal credit report would they look the same though given that it is a sole proprietorship completely in my name? Or will lenders percieve a business card as not showing personal responsibility?



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Guest: Daniel
Post subject: Personal Credit Cards vs. Business Credit Cards
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:54 am

If you have a company then business cards make sense so you can separate your expenses from your personal life.

Business cards also have a different set of rules, laws and consumer protection than a personal card.

Most business cards do not report to personal credit bureaus so you would not gain any advantage to a perspective personal lender.

Guest: Polonius
Credit Expert (100+ Posts)
Post subject: Personal Credit Cards vs. Business Credit Cards
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:49 pm

Not so. Jordan says he does business under his own name as an individual proprietor, so his business credit cards will appear on his personal credit records at all bureaus. My Amex Business Blue appears on all my personal reports, for example.



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Guest: Daniel
Post subject: Personal Credit Cards vs. Business Credit Cards
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:36 pm

Good point … thanks, I did not realize that a sole prop would report on personal credit.
All of my business cards are within a corporation.

Credit Cards With High Balances

Post subject: Credit Cards With High Balances
Guest: Steve Louisna
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:29 pm

Greetings-

I just found this site and it's like a breath of fresh air. Thank you all for posting such great info! I figured I'd give it a try and see if anyone can offer me some good advice. Here's the scenario:

My income varies with whatever project/home I'm working on as I'm self employed. I fix up and sell homes for a living and use credit cards to augment my lack of a fixed income. I tend to make chunks of money from time to time, pay off all debt, and start over. At this time I've got a chase balance of $8400 at a ridiculous 19% rate and an MBNA around 17% with a $7500 balance, not to mention a few 'smaller cards' each with 2-3K on them and also rates of 10-14%. I am looking to get my credit score back in decent shape (my middle score of the three bureaus is a 642) as well as restructure my debt to pay the least amount of interest possible. I'm pulling some funds out of the property I'm working on via a refinance, but it will be a while before I get any additional funds and I need to make a good plan as to how to make the money go the farthest as well as leave some room on the credit balances in case I need more funds should the house sale go on longer that expected.

Maintaining a high balance on a card is fine with me, so long as the interest rate is 3-4% such as I've been reading about with the Amex Blue Cash and so forth. Ideally I would like to transfer all the revolving debt to one large account with a low rate, but as that's probably not possible with my student loans etc, I'll need to do some shuffeling. I carry a lot of debt but don't have any late payments on my credit report other than a 30 day late mistake in 1999 and a mistake from countrywide a few years ago.

Thank you!



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Guest: mouse
SENIOR MEMBER (Member for 2 yrs.+)
Post subject: Pointers On Credit Cards With High Balances
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:03 pm

Lots of 0.00% BT'S around

ON-LINE or look in the SUNDAY NEWSPAPER (coupons)

AMEX HILTON
AMEX STARWOOD

BOTH 2.90% (NO FEE)

Guest: Daniel
Post subject: Pointers On Credit Cards With High Balances
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:21 am

Many times if you pay the balance down Chase and or MBNA will offer you a low rate teaser.
You don’t mention what your utilization is on the cards (balance versus credit limit) but if it’s high that’s probably why your rates seem high and your score a little on the low side.
Most prime banks hate high utilization, and perceive it as higher risk so you don’t get the best rates from them.

If you can get a new card that would certainly help but see if you can shift the balance around get the balances below 50% of the credit limit when your balance is low after you close the deal - call them and see what kind of credit increase, teaser or rate reduction might be available to set the stage for the future.

When your doing REI you have to be smart with your credit and allocating balances accross cards.